MovementSwap

Different footprints. The Seiko 4R35 is 27.40 mm x 5.32 mm and the Miyota 8217 is 26.00 mm x 5.67 mm, so they do not share a case. This is a choice between platforms, not a swap. Published dimensions, layout and the checks before you swap one for the other.

Updated 05 September 2026.

Drop-in resolution

Seiko 4R35 vs Miyota 8217: do they swap?

Whether the Seiko 4R35 and Miyota 8217 share a case, and what changes if you move between them.

No drop-in

Different footprints. The Seiko 4R35 is 27.40 mm x 5.32 mm and the Miyota 8217 is 26.00 mm x 5.67 mm, so they do not share a case. This is a choice between platforms, not a swap.

The Seiko 4R35 is the branded Seiko date automatic behind many Presage and Prospex models. The Miyota 8217 is the 8200-family member adding a 24-hour indicator alongside the date.

They differ in diameter (27.40 mm vs 26.00 mm), height (5.32 mm vs 5.67 mm), calendar layout (centre seconds, date at 3 vs centre seconds, date at 3, 24h sub-hand), winding behaviour. The branded Seiko caliber that the NH35 copies, at 27.40 mm x 5.32 mm with date at 3. It shares the NH35 footprint and stem, so the two interchange within the 27.40 mm case.

Matching diameter and height is necessary but not sufficient. A donor is only a true drop-in when the dial-foot positions, hand-hole sizes, stem length and calendar layout also match. Two movements can share a case and still need a new dial, re-broached hands or a cut-to-length stem.

Calibers and lookups

Seiko 4R3527.40 mm x 5.32 mm
Miyota 821726.00 mm x 5.67 mm

Questions and answers

Seiko 4R35 vs Miyota 8217: do they swap?

Different footprints. The Seiko 4R35 is 27.40 mm x 5.32 mm and the Miyota 8217 is 26.00 mm x 5.67 mm, so they do not share a case. This is a choice between platforms, not a swap.